Showing posts with label marriage. Show all posts
Showing posts with label marriage. Show all posts

Friday, February 24, 2012

Same-sex marriage bill approved by Maryland Senate


 02/23/2012
Same-sex marriage bill approved by Maryland Senate
By Aaron C. Davis
Dels. Ariana B. Kelly (D-Montgomery) and Bonnie L. Cullison (D-Montgomery) confer. For Cullison, the debate about the gay marriage legislation is personal: She would like to be able to marry her partner, Marcia.

A bill that would legalize same-sex marriage in Maryland was approved by the state Senate, which advanced a measure that narrowly cleared the House of Delegates last week.

The final vote by the state Senate ended a yearlong drama in Annapolis over the legislation, and marked the first time an East Coast state south of the Mason-Dixon line has supported gay nuptials.

With the vote, the measure moves to Gov. Martin O’Malley (D), who has said he will sign it.

Maryland would join the District and seven states in allowing same-sex marriages. Supporters have cast the bill as a major advance in equal rights. Opponents have called it a misguided attempt to redefine the institution of marriage.

Despite one of the largest Democratic majorities in any state legislature, backers of gay marriage in Maryland had to overcome fierce opposition from blocks of African American lawmakers and those with strong Catholic and evangelical views to cobble together coalitions big enough to pass both chambers. source:



The year 2012 is shaping up as a big one for same-sex marriage. Last week, the Washington state Legislature passed a bill allowing gay marriage, and legislatures in Maryland and New Jersey may follow suit shortly (though New Jersey Gov.Chris Christie has promised a veto). North Carolina and Minnesota are conducting referendums this year on constitutional amendments to bar gay marriage, and Maine is likely to conduct a referendum on legalizing it.

On Tuesday, the U.S. 9th Court of Appeals reminded us that courts too have something to say on the subject. In a case challenging the constitutionality of California's Proposition 8, that court ruled in favor of gay marriage. Because its ruling was so narrow that it may not be applicable outside California, theU.S. Supreme Court may decide not to review this decision. Eventually, though, the Supreme Court will take a gay marriage case. How might the justices decide it when they do?

As recently as seven or eight years ago, there might not have been a single justice prepared to declare a federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage. Opinion polls then showed that Americans opposed gay marriage by a 2-1 margin, and a Massachusetts court decision declaring a right to gay marriage under the state constitution produced an enormous political backlash in 2004, with 13 states enacting constitutional bans. Even liberal justices such as Ruth Bader Ginsburg andStephen G. Breyer, who probably sympathize with gay marriage, might well have been wary of venturing too far in advance of public opinion and stoking further political backlash.

The situation has since changed dramatically. Opinion polls now consistently show that a slender majority of Americans support gay marriage. State supreme courts in California, Connecticut and Iowa have ruled in its favor, and legislatures in five states have enacted gay-marriage statutes. If liberal judges on state supreme courts now regularly support gay marriage, liberal justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are likely to do so as well.

A number of constitutional issues today — abortion, affirmative action, campaign finance reform and the death penalty — divide the Supreme Court 5 to 4, with JusticeAnthony Kennedy providing the critical swing vote. How might Kennedy approach the gay-marriage issue?

Kennedy often converts dominant social mores into constitutional commands to bring outlier states into line with the majority. In this case, the states that allow gay marriage are in a distinct minority, suggesting he might be reluctant to identify such a constitutional right.

On the other hand, Kennedy has written the court's only two decisions supporting gay rights, and he comes from a part of the country — Northern California — where support for gay marriage is strong. Moreover, Kennedy seems especially attuned to his historical legacy, and if gay marriage is inevitable, then a court ruling in its favor will probably be seen one day as the Brown vs. Board of Education of the gay rights movement.

Why is gay marriage inevitable? First, the basic insight of the gay rights movement over the last four decades has proved powerfully correct: As more gays and lesbians have come out of the closet, the social environment has become more gay friendly. In turn, as the social environment has become more hospitable, more gays and lesbians have felt free to come out of the closet. This social dynamic is powerfully reinforcing and unlikely to be reversed.

One factor that most strongly predicts support for gay equality is knowing someone who is gay. As more gays and lesbians come out of the closet, more parents, children, siblings, friends, neighbors and co-workers know or love someone who is gay. Because few people favor discrimination against those they know and love, every gay person coming out of the closet creates more supporters of gay equality.

The number of Americans reporting that they know somebody who is openly gay tripled between 1985 and 2000, reaching 75%. One study in 2004 found that among those who reported knowing someone who is gay, 65% favored either gay marriage or civil unions, while only 35% of those who reported not knowing any gay people supported them.

A second reason that gay marriage seems inevitable is that young people so strongly support it. One study by political scientists found a gap of 44 percentage points between the oldest and youngest survey respondents in their attitudes toward gay marriage. A 2011 poll found that 70% of those age 18 to 34 supported gay marriage. It is hard to imagine a scenario in which young people's support for gay marriage dissipates as they grow older.

The trend in favor of gay marriage has accelerated dramatically in the last three years. Before 2009, the annual rate of increase in support for gay marriage was about 1.5 percentage points, but since then it has been closer to 4 percentage points. Statistical models predict that in another dozen years, every state will have a majority in favor of gay marriage.

In recent years, many conservatives have begun to acknowledge the inevitability of gay marriage, even as they continue to strongly oppose it. In March 2011, Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said on a Christian radio program that "it is clear that something like same-sex marriage … is going to become normalized, legalized and recognized in the culture."

"It's time," he continued, "for Christians to start thinking about how we're going to deal with that."

That a particular social change may be inevitable, given certain background conditions, does not mean that opponents will cease fighting it. White Southerners continued to massively resist Brown long after most of them came to believe that school desegregation was inevitable.

Similarly, those who believe that gay marriage contravenes God's will are not likely to stop fighting it simply because their prospects of success are diminishing. Moreover, because religious conservatives are both intensely opposed to gay marriage and highly mobilized politically, they are likely for the next several years to continue exerting significant influence over Republican politicians who need their support to win primary elections.

Although the ultimate outcome of the contest over gay marriage no longer seems in doubt, plenty of fighting remains until that battle is over.

Michael J. Klarman is a professor at Harvard Law School and the author of "Same-Sex Marriage Litigation and Political Backlash," to be published this fall.

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Freedom To Marry Pushes DNC To Incorporate Marriage Equality Into 2012 Party Platform



Marriage Equality
WASHINGTON -- An LGBT organization is calling on the Democratic Party to officially support marriage equality, launching a national campaign to get Democrats to enshrine it in the 2012 party platform -- even though the head of the party, President Barack Obama, still does not support same-sex marriage.
The "Democrats: Say I Do" campaign will enlist Democratic Party leaders, elected officials, activists and voters to promote the cause.
"An overwhelming majority of Democrats support the freedom to marry, as do a significant majority of Independents and voters under 50 across the political spectrum," said Evan Wolfson, founder and president of Freedom to Marry, which is leading the campaign. "The Democratic Party has a noble history of fighting for the human and civil rights of all Americans. It's now time for the national party to be true to its values and its voters and go unequivocally on record for the freedom to marry."
The language that Freedom to Marry wants included states:
We support the full inclusion of all families in the life of our nation, with equal respect, responsibilities, and protections under the law, including the freedom to marry. Government has no business putting barriers in the path of people seeking to care for their family members, particularly in challenging economic times. We support the Respect for Marriage Act and the overturning of the federal so-called Defense of Marriage Act, and oppose discriminatory constitutional amendments and other attempts to deny the freedom to marry to loving and committed same-sex couples.
If adopted, it would be the first time the party's platform embraces marriage equality. In 2008, the platform stated, "We oppose the Defense of Marriage Act and all attempts to use this issue to divide us," but it did not explicitly call for same-sex marriage.
In 2004, the platform condemned Republican attempts to pass a constitutional amendment barring same-sex marriage, but it also said the decision should be left to the states: "In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We repudiate President Bush's divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a 'Federal Marriage Amendment.' Our goal is to bring Americans together, not drive them apart."
The Democratic platform will be ratified at the party's national convention, which begins Sept. 3 in Charlotte, N.C.
Although a strong majority of Democrats are in favor of granting gay and lesbian individuals the right to get married, Obama still does not support this position. Recently, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said the president continues to "evolve" on the issue, but he still does not publicly back same-sex marriage.
The Democratic National Committee did not return a request for comment.
So far, nearly 3,000 people have signed Freedom to Marry's petition.
The group recently launched Mayors for the Freedom to Marry, a nonpartisan group pushing for the legalization of same-sex marriage. It currently includes 70 mayors from around the country and is chaired by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I) and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (D), among others.  SOURCE:

Prop. 8 simply can't justify itself

What potentially dooms Proposition 8 as it nears the Supreme Court is not necessarily the distinct whiff of prejudice but a lingering impression of incoherence.







Proposition 8 is a law in search of a reason. What is the purpose of denying the use of one word — "marriage" — to a class of people deemed by the state itself fully capable of taking on all of the child-raising and other responsibilities associated with the word?
The search for a reason may now go to theU.S. Supreme Court, assuming the court agrees to weigh the issue. Last week, in Perry vs. Brown, a divided panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals held that Proposition 8 was unconstitutional under the Constitution's equal protection clause.
The 9th Circuit relied heavily on Justice Anthony Kennedy's opinion for the Supreme Court in 1996 in Romer vs. Evans, which invalidated a state constitutional amendment forbidding any law protecting homosexuals from discrimination in any area of life. In a 6-3 decision, the court held Colorado's Amendment 2 unconstitutional, in part, because it was "at once too narrow and too broad," identifying "persons by a single trait and then denying them protection across the board."
But is the Supreme Court likely to apply the reasoning of Romer to the Proposition 8 case? As the 9th Circuit panel conceded, the initiative did not deny homosexuals legal protection across the board. Unlike the blunderbuss Amendment 2, Proposition 8 used what the opinion aptly called "surgical precision" to remove the title of marriage from otherwise fully protected relationships. In other words, the court seemed to argue, Proposition 8 violated the principle of Romer because it was at once too narrow and too narrow. That is a curious, and I think strained, application of Romer vs. Evans.
To the extent the 9th Circuit relied on the distinct harm caused by withdrawing six months' worth of court-ordered recognition, the opinion is even more shaky. California voters closed the window as soon as they could; surely their rebuke of state courts can't by itself constitutionally immunize judicial decisions.
Nevertheless, the root question will be why the window was closed at all. Romer makes clear that it is not constitutionally acceptable to disadvantage a class of persons simply to express animosity toward them. But Proposition 8's proponents certainly did not agree that the initiative was motivated by dislike of gay people. And though anti-gay arguments were made in high-profile campaign ads, it would be difficult to know what really motivated 7 million people to vote as they did.
If Proposition 8 is ultimately declared constitutionally unacceptable by the Supreme Court, it might have to reach beyond Romer, to a decision mentioned only sparingly by the 9th Circuit. That is the Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence vs. Texas, which struck down a law banning homosexual sex.
The sorry history of this country's legalized discrimination against homosexuals is striking for the absence of reasoned justifications, for arbitrary lines between conduct allowed and conduct forbidden, and for a tendency to use the asserted immorality of homosexual acts to justify widespread opprobrium of homosexuals. History certainly suggests that an unreasoning prejudice or aversion motivated some laws shutting out gay people.
Texas, for example, prohibited gay sex in 1973 in a so-called homosexual conduct law, but in the very same year the state legalized consensual heterosexual sodomy, adultery and even bestiality. One Texas appeals court judge, a Republican and self-described "country lawyer" who had no schooling in gay rights causes, saw that contradiction as nonsense. In an interview about the Lawrence case, he told me that when it reached his court, he wondered how the state could justify a surgically precise ban on gay sex.
"I kept thinking that if they decriminalized all those things that one would normally say are immoral, then why did they leave this one in? There had to be a reason," he recalled thinking, obviously still baffled. "And nobody could explain to me why."
In Lawrence, the court ruled that the state could not impose the majority's moral code on homosexuals. It could not "demean their existence or control their destiny" by driving them away from relationships. Homosexuals, the court observed, enter relationships for the same reasons heterosexuals do: to share intimacy with a partner, to show affection and obligation, to have and raise children, to establish a place they call home and to love people they call family. California recognized this reality through its broad domestic partnership law.
But just as Texas prosecutors could no longer explain in constitutionally acceptable terms why the law excluded homosexuals from an otherwise transformed codification of sexual morality, the proponents of Proposition 8 cannot explain the titular exclusion of gay couples from an otherwise transformed landscape of family law and marital practice. California has, for very good reasons, abandoned a seamless worldview of legally recognized relationships from which gay couples and their families must be absented. Proposition 8 in California, like the homosexual conduct law in Texas, is an anachronism.
So what potentially dooms Proposition 8 as it nears the Supreme Court is not necessarily the distinct whiff of prejudice but a lingering impression of incoherence. Despite what some critics last week charged, to challenge the sufficiency of the reasons offered for Proposition 8 is not to indict traditional marriage itself as bigoted and irrational. There are many rational, indeed compelling, reasons to support marriage between one man and one woman. Among others, getting heterosexuals to take responsibility for the children they conceive is a powerful reason to encourage them to marry.
But encouraging heterosexuals to take seriously their familial obligations is no reason by itself to deny same-sex couples the full social and legal incentive to settle down. And to confer parental rights, marital rights and marital obligations on same-sex couples without giving them "marriage," Proposition 8's proponents must more convincingly answer one question.
Why?
Dale Carpenter is a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School and the author of the forthcoming "Flagrant Conduct: The Story of Lawrence vs. Texas."  source:


Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Bedbugs at The United Nations: pedophilia masquerading as marriage


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A new low for the United Nations.

Bedbugs at the UN
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69Q5AO20101027

US activists lobby against UN religious defamation resolution
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/15/us-activists-lobby-agains_n_783803.html

Insulting Islam risks civilisation clash blah blah
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=41603

Blasphemy laws a serious threat to human rights
http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=70&release=1262

Child marriage in Saudi Arabia
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=41860

80-year-old Saudi man marries 14-year-old
http://www.emirates247.com/news/region/80-year-old-man-marries-14-year-old-20...

Muslim slavery in Sudan
http://undhimmi.com/2010/11/10/muslim-slavery-resurgent-as-sudan-arabs-kidnap...

Saudi women vow to breastfeed their drivers
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1119871

Iranian cleric blames immodestly dressed women for earthquakes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8631775.stm

1195 women murdered in Pakistan in 2010
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Nearly-1200-women-killed-in...

Family waits to see if mother will be hanged for blasphemy
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/18/pakistan.blasphemy/

Pakistani woman freed after 14 years in prison without trial for blasphemy
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Woman-freed-after-spending-14-years-in-prison-...

A woman murdered every day in Karachi
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\01\16\story_16-1-2010_pg12_3

Women in Pakistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Pakistan

Violence against women in Pakistan
http://www.hrcp-web.org/shownews.asp?id=41

Violence against women in Punjab
http://tribune.com.pk/story/39230/highest-number-of-reported-cases-in-punjab/

Five women buried alive in Pakistan
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2008/2969/

Welcome to Pornistan
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/data-shows-pakistan-googling-pornogra...

Saudi Arabia spot on UN women agency triggers outcry
http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/2010/11/14/saudi-arabia-spot-on-un-women...

When it comes to women, the UN flogs its own integrity
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/when-it-comes-to-women-t...

The crimewave that shames the world
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/the-crimewave-that-sha...

Want human rights? Leave the United Nations
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/30056

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(Reuters) - New York City's bedbug epidemic has spread to yet another landmark in the city that never sleeps -- the United Nations, officials at the world organization said on Wednesday.

The pests appeared at places like the Empire State Building and Bloomingdale's before reaching the city's center of international diplomacy on the East Side of Manhattan.

The U.N. press office said a bedbug-sniffing dog had confirmed the presence of bedbugs in furniture in the basement of the Dag Hammarskjold Library, where the offices of the team overseeing the U.N. headquarters' $1.9 billion renovation project are housed.

"This furniture has been moved to a part of the building not occupied by staff to facilitate fumigation," it said.

The library is a three-story annex to the main building.

"Bedbug infestations have been found in many public and commercial buildings throughout New York City indicating a worsening problem," the U.N. statement said.

In August, the pest extermination company Terminex said that New York is the most bedbug-infested urban center in the United States. Other cities in the top five were Philadelphia, Detroit, Cincinnati and Chicago.


Sick – ‘child brides’ August 1, 2011


A Saudi cleric issued a ‘fatwa’ on pedophilia masquerading as marriage:
Earlier this month we saw—or rather, were once again reminded—that Islam permits pedophilia in the guise of “marriage”: Top Saudi cleric, Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, issued afatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for girls to marry, “even if they are in the cradle,” and that the only criterion is that “they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men.”
I read this story in National Geographic a few months back about this ‘child bride’ phenomenon, which is practiced in many parts of the world but which goes to extremes in Islam not seen in the other religion that practices it: hinduism.  In Hinduism, there is a minimum age, typically.  Irrespective, the story was full of horrific details, like 8 year old girls bleeding to death after being raped by their 50 year old, 400 lb, fat, nasty, stinking muslim “husband.”  Or girls as  young as 12 with 2 or 3 children, suffering from continual bleeding from their birth.  And much more.  It was heart-wrenching.  The quote above makes clear that there is no ‘waiting period’ for these brides, no time to grow up and obtain a body capable of the actions being demanded of it.  No, they are raped on the first night of ‘marriage.’   National Geographic made it sound, however, like most child brides were taken in the rural areas, outside the reach of government control.

But witness, below, the very civilized denizens of the Palestinian Authority domains.  No need for hiding in a distant village for these types:
  Apparently, the photo used at the original site was not showing actual child brides out in the open.  The rest stands.
Why does islam embrace pedophilia?  Well, because their founder was big into it:
The story of the prophet’s marriage to Aisha reveals to us aspects like the prophet’s conduct with Aisha, and more importantly the aspect regarding the relationship between the husband and wife, to show how one should treat his wife, just as the prophet did with Aisha.
We know that Asia’s mother went to take her down from the swing that she was playing on[because she was 9!!] to fix her hair  and prepare her for the prophet so he could enter her [have sex with her]—and she did that all on the same day.
I will never cease being amazed that Blessed Pope John Paul II kissed the holy book of this religion and gave it moral equivalence to Christianity.
Related – lengthy but important.  A categorization of all the ‘prophet’s’ perversions.


Part 1
"I am only reading what is in Islam's own books!"
Father Zakaria Botros recently ran a show dedicated to discussing the question of morality and how it is—or should be—one of the hallmarks of "prophethood." At the start, he posed the focal question of the show: "Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated by the world?"
He opened the show by relying on an Ibn Taymiyya quote, which evaluated the signs of prophethood. Taymiyya asserted that there are many false-prophets, such as Musailima "the Liar," a contemporary of Muhammad. Taymiyya concluded that many of these so-called prophets are, in fact, "possessed," and that the only way to determine the authenticity of any prophet is by examining his biography (sira) and deeds, and see if he be found worthy of the title.
Being that this is the first of several episodes devoted to examining the concepts of morality and prophethood (with the notion that the former reinforces the latter), the theme for this particular episode was "purity" (tahara): "Was Muhammad a 'pure' man?"—in this context, a question concerning his sexual mores (or lack thereof).
After the preliminaries, Botros looked at the camera and gave a stern warning: "This episode is for adults only! I am going to discuss many things that make me blush for shame, so please: have the women and children leave the room."
He then asked Muslims watching to keep in mind the question "Is this the prophet I follow?" as he delineated some of Muhammad's sexual habits.
First, from the Koran, Botros read verses unequivocally stating that Muhammad is the paragon of all virtue and morality, such as "And most surely you [Muhammad] conform (yourself) to sublime morality [68: 4]." He further quoted the ulema, such as Ibn Kathir, all insisting that Muhammad was the "Noblest of all humanity, and the greatest of prophets."
Botros and his ex-Muslim cohost—the priest had insisted that it be a man for this particular show, lest he be too ashamed to delineate Muhammad's sexual habits—discussed Koran 4:3, which "limits" a Muslim's wives to four, plus "what your right hands possess," that is, slave-girls.
That was apparently not good enough for Muhammad, asserted Botros; an entire verse had to be "revealed" justifying more women for him (Koran 33:50). In fact, Father Botros has carefully compiled a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad.
Botros said that was only normal: according to Sirat Al-Halabi, Muhammad can have a woman no matter what, even against her will; and if Muhammad desired a married woman, her husband would have had to divorce her. According to Ibn Sa'ad, who wrote another authoritative biographical account of Muhammad, "The prophet did not die till all women were permitted him" (see Kitab Al Tabaqat Al Kubra, v.8, 194).
The co-host, rather abruptly, interjected – "What of all those rumors that Muhammad exhibited homosexual tendencies?"
Botros dropped his face in his hands and mumbled, "So you still insist we discuss that?" The co-host was adamant, saying it was for Muslims' own good to know everything.
Thus Botros, after profusely apologizing to his Muslim viewers, saying how embarrassing this was for him, declared: "Look! We're merely readers here, bringing up what we have read in Islam's own books! If Muslims don't like it, they should go and burn these books."
The first anecdote discussed by the priest revolved around a hadith that, while some ulema say is "weak," is, nonetheless according to Botros, present in 44 Islamic books—including some highly respected collections, such as Sunan Bayhaqi and Al Halabi.
According to this hadith, a man named Zahir, who used to declare that "the prophet loves me," said that one day Muhammad crept unawares behind him and put him in a bear-hug. Zahir, alarmed, yelled, "Get off me!" After turning his head and discovering that it was Muhammad, he stopped struggling and proceeded to "push his back into the prophet's chest—prayers and blessings upon him."
Another curious hadith contained in Sunan Bayhaqi and which traces to Sunan Abu Dawud (one of the six canonical hadith collections), has Muhammad lifting up his shirt for a man who proceeded to kiss his entire torso, "from his bellybutton to his armpits."
Botros looked casually at the camera and said, "Imagine if the sheikh of Al Azhar [nearest Muslim equivalent to the pope] went around lifting his shirt for men to kiss his torso" (he proceeded to make smacking kissing noises, for effect).
Said the co-host: "Surely there's more?"
Botros: "Indeed there is. No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls"...
Part 2
Last we left the priest and his co-host, the former noted that, "No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls."
Botros proceeded to read aloud from various sources, such as a hadith relayed by Abu Hurreira (deemed an extremely reliable narrator), where Muhammad sucked on the tongues of his cousin (and future caliph) Ali's two boys, Hassan and Hussein—they of revered Shia memory.
Next he read a hadith of Muhammad sucking on the tongue of his own daughter, Fatima. Fr Botros also added that the Arabic word for "suck" (muss) cannot, as some apologists insist, mean anything but "suck." "After all," added the perspicacious priest, "this is the same word used when discussing Muhammad's 'activities' with his wives, especially his beloved child-bride, Aisha."
With an extremely disgusted look on his face, Botros turned towards the camera and said: "Dear lady, imagine, for a moment, coming home to find your husband sucking on your daughter's tongue? What would you do? It's even worse: it's your prophet—the most "morally upright" man, a man to be emulated by the world! A man who on record used to go around sucking the tongues of his wives, his daughters, and young boys: Are these the activities of the man described in the Koran as being the pinnacle of moral perfection?"
Cohost: "More!"
"Muhammad would not sleep until he kissed his daughter Fatima and nuzzled his face in her bosom [the priest provided the appropriate sources]. Dear lady! what would you say to your husband sleeping with his face in your daughter's breast—is that the height of morality?!"
At this point, Fr Botros, looking downcast, began apologizing profusely, saying he could only imagine how all these anecdotes must be troubling for Muslims, to which the co-host reassured him: "It's not your fault, father, but rather the fault of those Muslims recording these vile incidences. Either way: Muslims must know. More please."
Botros continued reading more revealing hadiths, including one from the Musnad of Ahmad bin Hanbal, which records Muhammad seeing a 2-3 year old girl in her mother's arms. Muhammad was so "impressed" by her that he said, "By Allah, if this girl reaches marrying age and I am still alive, I will surely marry her."
Another hadith goes on to say that Muhammad ended up dying before this particular girl reached marriage age, to which the by now vexed priest, unable to contain himself, exclaimed, "Awwww! Poor prophet! He missed one!"
Botros then told viewers to keep this last hadith in mind, for "context," as he read another hadith from theSunan of Bin Said, which records Muhammad saying "I hugged so-and-so when she was a child and found that I greatly desired her."
"What prophet is this you follow?!" cried the outraged Coptic priest. "Where is his morality? This is the man that Muslims follow slavishly? Use your minds!"
It was late in the night, yet Fr Botros was not done cataloging his findings regarding the prophet's "sexual" habits (these shows are an hour and a half long). So, when he moved on to a hadith depicting Muhammad lying next to a dead woman in her grave, as well as pointing to hadith categories called "intercourse with a dead woman," I happily turned off the satellite and called it a night—till this moment, as I am (somewhat reluctantly) revisiting my notes to prepare this report.
Part 3
Last we left the Coptic priest, he was reading from hadith reports stating that the prophet of Islam "admired" a 2-3 year old girl (saying that he hoped to live long enough to make her his wife), and "laid" in the grave with a dead woman.
In this episode, he began with the prophet's "transvestite" tendencies. He read from several hadiths, including Sahih Bukhari—Fr Botros claims that there are no less than 32 different references to this phenomenon in Islam's books—wherein Muhammad often laid in bed dressed in women's clothes, specifically his child-bride Aisha's.
Fr. Botros: "Perhaps Muslims think that he only dressed in Aisha's clothes? Being that she was his "favorite," perhaps after being intimate with her, he would merely lay in bed with her clothes?" (Here the priest put his face in his hands lamenting that he had to talk of such shameful things.)
Then he offered an interesting and revealing hadith, from Sahih Bukhari (2/911), which records Muhammad saying, "Revelations [i.e., the Koran] never come to me when I'm dressed in women's clothing—except when I'm dressed in Aisha's," implying that it was something of a habit for the prophet to dress in female clothing.
Fr Botros next moved on to some commentaries in the Tafsir of al-Qurtubi—an authoritative exegesis in Islam. He read one anecdote where Aisha said that, one day, while Muhammad was lying naked in bed, Zaid came knocking; Muhammad, without getting dressed, opened the door and "hugged and kissed him"—in the nude. Elsewhere, Qurtubi concludes that, "the prophet—prayers and blessings upon him—was constantly preoccupied with women."
Fr Botros to Muslims: "So this is your prophet—the most morally upright man? Instead of being preoccupied with, say, prayer or good deeds, he was preoccupied with women?"
He next read from Faid al-Qabir (3/371), wherein Muhammad is on record saying, "My greatest loves are women and perfume: the hungry is satisfied after eating, but I never have enough of women." Another hadith: "I can hold back from food and drink—but not from women." After reading these hadiths, Fr Botros would just look at the screen in silence, shaking his head.
He next read an interesting narrative (contained in Umdat al-Qari and Faid al-Qabir). Reportedly, Allah sent Gabriel with some sort of celestial food (called al-kofid) to Muhammad, commanding the latter to "Eat!"—identical to when Gabriel came to Muhammad saying "Read!" (i.e., iqra, the word for Koran). The report goes on to quote Muhammad saying that the food given to him "gave me the sexual potency of 40 heavenly men." Fr Botros next read from the Sunan of al-Tirmidhi, where it says that the "heavenly man" has the sexual potency of 100 mortal men.
Wondered the priest: "So, doing the math, 40x100, we can conclude that Muhammad, whenever he ate his heavenly aphrodisiac, had the sexual potency of 4000 men? Really, O umma, is this the claim to fame of your prophet—that he was a raving sex maniac?" Then, less seriously, "Imagine the surprise when Westerners find out that, once again, it was Muhammad who first discovered Viagra!"
Zakaria Botros went on to read from more sources, such as Sunan al-Nisa'i, wherein Muhammad used to in a single night "visit" all his women, without washing in between. Asked the priest: "Why even record such obscene and embarrassing things?"
Perhaps most entertaining, Fr Botros spent some time analyzing an anecdote recorded in Ibn Kathir's al-Bidaya we al-Nihaya. Here is a translation for this lengthy account:
After conquering the Jews of Khaybar, and plundering their belongings, among other things, a donkey fell into the lot of the prophet, who proceeded to ask the donkey: "What is your name?"
The donkey answered, "Yazid Ibn Shihab. Allah had brought forth from my ancestry 60 donkeys, none of whom were ridden on except by prophets. None of the descendants of my grandfather remain but me, and none of the prophets remain but you and I expected you to ride me. Before you, I belonged to a Jewish man, whom I caused to stumble and fall frequently so he used to kick my stomach and beat my back."
Here, chuckling, the priest added, "a taqiyya-practicing donkey!" He continued reading, "The prophet – may Allah's prayers and peace be upon him – said to him, 'I will call you Ya'foor. O Ya'foor!' Ya'foor replied, 'I obey.' The prophet asked, 'Do you lust after females?' The donkey replied, 'No!'"
Cried the priest: "Even the donkey blushed for shame concerning your prophet's over-sexed inquiries! Here we have what is supposed to be a miracle—a talking donkey; and of all things to communicate to this animal, your prophet's most urgent question was whether the donkey lusts after females?"
Next, reading from Sahih Bukhari (5/2012), Fr Botros relayed an account where Muhammad went into the house of a young woman named Umaima bint Nua'm and commanded her to "Give yourself to me!" The woman responded, "Shall a queen give herself to the rabble?" Shaking his fist, Muhammad threatened her, and then sent her off to her parents.
Zakaria Botros: "You see, people, even back then, in those dark ages, there were still people who had principles, who did not give way to threats and coercion. However, the real question here is, why was Muhammad contradicting the commandments of his own Koran—"if a believing woman gives herself to the prophet" (33:50)—trying to coerce this young lady?"
Finally, with a most distasteful look on his face, the priest read from a hadith in al-Siyuti (6/395), where Muhammad asserts that, "In heaven, Mary mother of Jesus, will be one of my wives."
"Please, O prophet," quoth the Coptic Orthodox priest, "do not implicate our saints with your filthy practices…"
Part 4
Once again, at the start of the show, Fr Botros read from a famous Ibn Taymiyya excerpt regarding how to differentiate between real and false prophets. Taymiyya asserted that there are many false-prophets, such as Musailima "the Liar," that many of these so-called prophets were, in fact, "possessed," and that the only way to determine the authenticity of any prophet is by examining his biography (sira) and deeds, and see if he be found worthy of the title of prophet.
After reading the lengthy quote, Fr Botros concluded with a, "Good for you, Ibn Taymiyya! You at least knew this much."
The viewers were then given the usual warning: "This show is for adults only! Young ladies and children should leave now." He then exhorted the viewers to keep in mind as he reads about Muhammad that "this is the prophet you follow. Bear this in mind, O you Muslim!"
Fr Botros then lamented how for 1400 years barriers have been erected around Muhammad so no one—Muslim or infidel—could critique his life: "But the time has come, my friends; the barrier is broken!"
Next he recapped the past three episodes dealing with Muhammad's sexual habits—including (but not limited to) his sucking the tongues of boys and girls, kissing the breasts of his daughter Fatima, "lusting" after 2-3 year-old girls, laying with a dead woman, homosexual inclinations, receiving revelations while dressed in women's clothing, copulating with nine women in a row without washing in between (and then bragging about it), greeting people while in the nude, and proclaiming that he will copulate with Mary the mother of Jesus in heaven. (To this latter one, the priest, with a disgusted look on his face, said, "Come on, guy! Get real.")
He began this episode by saying that no less than 34 books, including the Tafsir of al-Qurtubi and Sahih Muslim, record that Muhammad used to "fondle"—Botros scowled at the screen—"kiss and have sex while fasting, though he forbade others from doing so."
Said the host: "Interesting. But we know that prophets have special dispensations: Do you have anything more explicit?"
Fr Botros: "Fine. How's this: the prophet used to visit [copulate with] his women when they were menstruating -- so sorry for this disgusting topic! Forgive me, people!"
He then pointed out that the main problem with this is that the Koran (2:222)—"Muhammad's own words," as he put it—forbade Muslims from going near menstruating women.
He went on to quote from a number of hadiths affirming that Muhammad freely had sex with menstruating women, including from Sahih Bukhari (v.5, p. 350), which said that if Muhammad desired a menstruating woman, he placed a sheet around her and proceeded with his business, to which the priest cried:
"Come on man! Couldn't you find another one of your 66 women? It just had to be the one menstruating?"
Then, earnestly looking into the camera: "But seriously, people: are you not ashamed of these things? I know I am—just mentioning them. And this is your 'prophet'—the 'exemplary man'?"
He then read a hadith, narrated by Aisha, and contained in the canonical six, wherein the prophet's young wife recounted how, whenever she was menstruating, if the prophet "wanted her," he used to "command" her to have sex with him, to which the priest exclaimed—"Commanded! This is rape! Who is this character you are following?"
He read from a number of other hadiths, all demonstrative of Muhammad's sexual proclivities toward menstruating women—which the Koran forbids—adding, "People, if this is how the 'prophet of God' behaves, what can we expect from the average man?"
Asked the host: "Well, could other men behave this way?"
Fr Botros: "Sure, the prophet was always generous to his followers, giving them ways out. According to eight hadith compilations, Ibn Abbas relayed that Muhammad said if a man cannot help himself and copulates with his menstruating wife, all he has to do is pay one dinar in atonement; if he sleeps with her towards the end of her cycle, when she isn't bleeding as much, he need only pay half a dinar—a discount!" [saying "discount" in English and laughing].
Host: "As you pointed out, since Muhammad had so many women, why did he even feel the need to resort to the ones that were menstruating?"
Fr Botros: "Ahhhh. I see you are wisely connecting the dots. The simple reason, my friend, is that Muhammad used to like smelling"—here he went sniff, sniff—"menstruation blood." He then quoted from al-Siyuti, where Aisha relayed that Muhammad said to her "Come here," to which she replied, "But I am menstruating, O prophet of God." So he said "Expose your thighs"; she did so and "he proceeded to lay his cheek and chest on her thighs."
Fr Botros: "Help me people! How can such perverse behavior come from a prophet—the 'greatest role model'?"
He then read a Sahih Bukhari hadith (v.6, p.2744) relayed by Aisha where she said that, while menstruating, the prophet used to lay his head on her thighs and recite the Koran.
Fr Botros: "While reciting the Koran!!"
Next he read from Ahkam al-Koran (v.3, p.444) where a woman declared that she used to cup water from a well that had, not just menstruation blood, but dog flesh, and all manner of filth, and give Muhammad to drink.
Fr Botros: "What happened to Koran 2:222?! Yet the 'seal of the prophets' can drink such foul water?"
Then, while shaking his head with eyes downcast: "O Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad..."
Part 5
Last we left the Coptic priest, he was discussing Muhammad's predilection for menstruating women—even though the Koran itself (as Fr Botros put it, "his own words") forbid men from getting near to menstruating women.
Here, the priest was interested in examining Muhammad's faithlessness towards his wives (though one would have thought the plural renders the notion of faithfulness moot), his sexually exploitative behavior, and his reliance on very obscene language.
First, Fr Botros spent some time discussing the well known story where the prophet betrayed his wife Hafsa with a slave-girl (Unfortunately, one cannot capture the hilarity with which the priest recounted this tale.)
In short, after sending Hafsa to visit her father, the latter, halfway there, realized that it was "her day"—that is, the day when, of all his wives, Muhammad would visit her for "conjugal relations." She hurried back (Fr Botros added "She knew him well: if she wasn't there on her day, he would go crazy and grab the first female passing by!").
In fact, Hafsa caught Muhammad with a slave-girl on the former's bed. Muhammad quickly evicted the slave-girl and told Hafsa that if she kept this between them, he would henceforth refrain from the slave-girl.
To no avail: Hafsa gabbed and soon all of Muhammad's wives revolted against his incessant philandering; As Fr Botros put it, "When things got critical, Muhammad decided to drop a 'new revelation' on them; so he threw surat al-tahrim (66: 1-11) at them, wherein Allah supposedly chastises Muhammad for trying to please his wives by not sleeping around, threatening the wives to get in line lest the prophet divorce them—indeed, lest they all go to hell."
Then, looking at the screen, Fr Botros asked, "Imagine, dear lady, if your husband asked you to go on errand and then you return before your time only to find him in bed with another woman? What sort of man would that make him in your eyes? Yet it's worse—it's your prophet, whom you all extol as the most perfect human, to be slavishly emulated!"
He then pointed out that "clever little Aisha knew him [Muhammad] well": whenever such verses were revealed rescuing Muhammad, Aisha would often observe that "Verily, your lord [Allah] is ever quick to fulfill your whims and desires (e.g., al-Siyuti v.6, p.629).
Next the priest relayed an account portraying how the prophet sexually exploited a "retarded" woman. According to 23 sources (e.g., Sahih Muslim vol.4, p.1812) a feeble-minded woman came up to Muhammad saying, "O prophet of Allah! I have something for you." He clandestinely met her out back and took this "something" from her.
Added Fr Botros: "I fear now that many believers will want to implement this sunna—don't do it, guys, this is just to illustrate.... Listen you Muslims: don't hate me for revealing all this to you; don't lie in wait to kill me. I am merely revealing what your books contain. And, as always, we humbly await the great sheikhs and ulema to address these issues and show us where we went wrong."
Next, Fr Botros discussed the sort of foul language Muhammad -- the "greatest example" -- employed: "Sorry, so sorry to reveal to you the sort of despicable language Muhammad used—language I am too ashamed to even mention. In fact, your prophet said one of the most obscene Arabic words—the equivalent of the 'f-word' [he counseled his Arabic viewers to google the "f-word" to understand what he was talking about]. "
Refusing to pronounce or spell this word, which he said appears in 67 books, including Sahih Bukhari, the text containing this word, "inkat-ha" -- or, in context, Muhammad asking a man about a woman if he "f***** her" -- was portrayed on the screen for all to read.
Then, "Quick! take that filth down! What would you Muslims do if the Sheikh of al Azhar went around using such language? Worse -- it's your prophet, the 'greatest creation.'"
The host asked if Muhammad used any other foul language, to which the priest responded, "Oh, boy, did he ever; unfortunately this program is way too short to list them all."
According to Qaid al-Qadir (v.1, p.381), Muhammad told Muslims to retort to uppity infidels by saying things like -- again, he didn't pronounce it, but the text appeared on the screen -- "Go bite on your mother's clitoris!" or, according to Zad al-Mi'ad (v.3, p305), "Go bite on your dad's penis!"
Then, once again while shaking his head in sheer disappointment, "O prophet of Allah...prophet of Allah....Would that you would've heeded your lord Jesus' counsel: 'The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks' (Luke 6:45)."